They want people that look happy, young, and energetic... then make them feel miserable, old, and tired.
I guess Sanderson would be an exception. He is only a little older than me, but he looks old enough to pass for more like my father's age.
Billy the Ex-Bethelite
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Why the Clean out of top Management
by Poztate init has been commented here that "soon" the do's will be history.
the co level will be "retired" at age 70 and the latest development was that the cobe can not serve after age 80. it would seem that there is a "cull" of top management.
in secular companys that would signal a radical change of directions ???.
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WTS leader rants against higher education
by hoser inon jw tv.
anthony morris is ranting against higher education.
he is blaming parents for enrolling their kids in college.
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
Good catch on that quote Flipper...
" All credit goes to God in our victories, it is not US and our OWN work , they see God's hand. "
All the more reason to ditch their legal department with all those university educated attorneys. If it really is god to credit for their victories, shouldn't they back it up with a David vs. Goliath example and have some home-schooled, baptised-at-8, bethel newboy teenagers represent them in court?
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Very interesting to see it broken down this way. So many of these countries haven't increased enough to make 1 new congregation.
And to see Japan, Cuba, and Poland with such large decreases is so different than their earlier years of growth.
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First Time Post - Long time reader
by Samaritan At the Well intoday is my first post on jwd, i was one of jehovahs witness for almost 50 years of my life, i was born into the religion.
i was baptized at a young age and once i got married i was a very spiritual woman as they would call me.
my husband and i served as full time pioneers, we traveled abroad and went to international conventions, did some special pioneer service in other states in the us.
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
Welcome to both of you! Thanks for joining and sharing your story.
We finally decided we had enough and we could no longer sit in the seats at the Kingdom Hall and listen to propaganda they were spewing, we are officially free!
The last months that I attended were pure torture. Even the meeting clothes felt like sandpaper against my skin. As much as I wanted to laugh or scream at the absurdity of it all, I just sat there at the KH and AH with a blank stare... like just about everyone else there.
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Why the Clean out of top Management
by Poztate init has been commented here that "soon" the do's will be history.
the co level will be "retired" at age 70 and the latest development was that the cobe can not serve after age 80. it would seem that there is a "cull" of top management.
in secular companys that would signal a radical change of directions ???.
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In my opinion, those COs and DOs that are older are often very out-of-touch. They may be "nice" (and I've know plenty that really weren't nice), but if they're lifers, they have no family experience and don't relate to anyone under 45. I've heard ones give nearly the exact same talks as I heard them giving 20 years earlier. Some seemed to still be ranting about the evils of dancing The Twist and watching soap operas... in a twerking and reality TV world.
And having an elderly COBE? The ones I've known have a hard time keeping up with all the changes in teachings and procedures. And it just makes the organization look old and 'behind the times' to have all these old elders and other representatives. They want people that look happy, young, and energetic... then make them feel miserable, old, and tired.
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Pagan Origins
by tinker ina currently active jdub acquaintance occasionally stops by to say hello and we share a wee dram or two.
after the general small talk of new cars, exotic vacations and sports we often get into the "why" we are xjubs.
he is a well educated publisher who holds a phd in child psychology.
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
Welcome Half banana!
Uh-oh. Half banana/half dog? I'm pretty certain that's pagan!
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2015 March-Our Kingdom Ministry!
by Atlantis inis the watchtower having problems with meetings for field service?
are field service meetings being viewed as "less" important than other meetings?.
2015 march, our kingdom ministry.. click the link by the blue arrow.. https://www.sendspace.com/file/fwcmcc ;.
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
Low attendance and viewed as less important? Reminds me of the old Tuesday night book studies. I vividly recall how WT stressed the importance of the congregation book studies. Every CO visit it was hammered on how low book study attendances were and needed to be brought up from around 70% to 100% or better. I was in congregations that were constantly switching locations, and trying different days, including Saturday and Sunday... with no real success. And WT claimed that during the tribulation those book studies held in homes would save our lives since the KHs would be closed down.
Then, out of the blue, WT discontinued these meetings. Why didn't they do that back when I was a kid? It would have saved hours of my time every week!
Maybe it's time for WT to call it quits with meetings for field serve-us?
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Trying to figure things out!
by RecoveringISFJ inwell, i made comments on a couple of post already, but i guess i should somehow introduce myself.
i choose the user name to hopefully try and identify my past while working for future changes in myself.
ive been in and out since i was a kid.
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
Welcome!
It can be very disorienting to leave that world that we used to live in. But I've found the adjustments to be worth it.
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WTS leader rants against higher education
by hoser inon jw tv.
anthony morris is ranting against higher education.
he is blaming parents for enrolling their kids in college.
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
After having some more time to think about the things stated as objections to university education, 3 points have lingered with me.
1) The example of the guy that went to university and decided he believed in evolution. I suspect this to be something that has been reported frequently. Looking at some examples close to me, and myself included, evolution was just one of the issues, besides all the false prophecies, the futile works, the flip-flopping troothz, etc. Perhaps it's since WT has printed books and brochures that they think are so convincing against evolution, but are completely full of holes and illogical. Why would god create thousands of species of blood-sucking and disease-spreading mosquitoes as a "marvel of creative design"? If evolution doesn't happen, who carried ebola and AIDS on the ark? Speaking of the ark, how could the millions of species fit on the ark? WT says that there were a limited number of 'kinds' on the ark that descended into the millions of species today... isn't that evolution? And the way that kangaroos evolved from possums in just a few hundred years is a far more radical evolutionary belief by a religion than any evolutionary biology presented by science. Yet, when such facts are expressed by a college student, ToMo can only say, "He believes in evolution. Shouldn't have let him go to university where he learns FACTS." Since WT teachings completely crumple against the force of real truth, their only solution is to keep the kids away from learning real truth that can be acquired outside the walls of WT.
2) They seem to think that going to university is all about making money and gaining status. Well, isn't WT about asking for money and the GB themselves about grasping for greater status and adoration? So they ascribe those same motives to university students and label it "evil" and "worldly". Ironic, eh? In my case, if we say that Billy went to university to get a degree to make money and gain status, would we say "That's terrible! Billy should struggle to find any job that pays almost no money... and then find the worst job possible that he'd be ashamed to talk about publicly!"? Well, nobody's ever told me that to my face. Who would say that to anybody's face? My job now is both physically and mentally challenging, but it is so much better to be out of bethel and have a degree to my name and working in the real world... words cannot describe how much better my life is now. I don't have that much money, nor do I have "status", but for me it goes very far beyond that.
3) As I recall (and I'm not going to watch it again to confirm), ToMo states that an objection to attending university isn't the expense. Well, in realistic terms I'd say that it is one of the major obstacles as far as I would be concerned. If someone isn't a particularly good student, have a desire to attend, or have a plan for where their education is taking them, it can be very expensive to attend university and leave without a degree or a career path. But when someone has a plan, the aptitude, and the desire, why object? For me, I finished with debt... but I'm on my way to having that paid back within just a few years. (It's suggested that the student debt be less than the first year's salary. My debt is less than half.) As a side note: taking classes at community colleges can be much cheaper and can be either a way to pursue a degree or just learn something new... like evolutionary biology or neo-Babylonian chronology!
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Freedom Post # 1 - First Timer
by 7Starz insynchronicity - the simultaneous occurrence of events that appear significantly related but have no discernible causal connection.
today is the first day of the rest of my life.
freedom.
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
Welcome!
